yay, another debate on religion. oh wait, its the exact same one, with the exact same people and responses.
oh well.
Catholic here.
They do coexist, sort of, and have for years
The Catholic church has accepted the theory of evolution and the big bang theory for years, saying that it was all through Gods action and by his will and stuff. which can be seen as a very general answer but whatever.
The book of genesis was a fictional book created by the forfathers of the church to display the power of God. As such we cant take the story of the creation too seriously. especially when there is such overwhelming evidence towards the theory of evolution.
I think this is the 4th time ive had to explain it.
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Was going to try reply to Hydes comment on the spanish inquisitions and stuff, but i got too angry, I feel like conquering a small country or something.
for once i actually agree with something boredpayne has said
oh well.
Catholic here.
Originally Posted by William
An important thing for me is that some people claim that the bible and evolution can coexist.I'd like an explanation for that.
They do coexist, sort of, and have for years
The Catholic church has accepted the theory of evolution and the big bang theory for years, saying that it was all through Gods action and by his will and stuff. which can be seen as a very general answer but whatever.
The book of genesis was a fictional book created by the forfathers of the church to display the power of God. As such we cant take the story of the creation too seriously. especially when there is such overwhelming evidence towards the theory of evolution.
I think this is the 4th time ive had to explain it.
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Was going to try reply to Hydes comment on the spanish inquisitions and stuff, but i got too angry, I feel like conquering a small country or something.
Originally Posted by Boredpayne
ITT: we judge mordern religious institutions on what they've done hundreds of years ago and stereotype every religious believer into a fundamentalist science-hating potential terrorist.
Catholics are ordinary people. No, they don't want to tell you you're going to hell. Same with every mainstream religion everywhere.
for once i actually agree with something boredpayne has said
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Originally Posted by BenDover
They do coexist, sort of, and have for years
The Catholic church has accepted the theory of evolution and the big bang theory for years, saying that it was all through Gods action and by his will and stuff. which can be seen as a very general answer but whatever.
The book of genesis was a fictional book created by the forfathers of the church to display the power of God. As such we cant take the story of the creation too seriously. especially when there is such overwhelming evidence towards the theory of evolution.
I think this is the 4th time ive had to explain it.
Indeed, since 1996 the catechism has accepted evolution.
I guess it is a twist of fate that the evolution of the Church itself would lead to the acceptance of evolution! Why, less than a hundred years before John Paul II, his seniors held fast that the literal interpretation of Genesis was to be upheld.
However for a mere follower to change beliefs so easily is not possible, so currently the Catholic church is split between those who agree with evolution, and those that do not - despite official opinion. Other Christian sects have not made such bold assertions.
I would guess that Ben is young enough not to have solidified an opinion that evolution was false, before the pope decided to accept it. It's pretty insane that a complete turn around could happen so fast - only 20 years ago a 300 year old theory was accepted. I wonder when they will admit that the "god particle" is not proof of god? :P Just kidding, I'm sure the pope would go far enough to assert that!
Originally Posted by dannyrug
Well since there is seperation of church and state, and i was to kill you because you are atheist, i could not get arested becasue it is my religion? Is that what you are trying to say in these links. The only people that actually kill for religious reasons are the so called terrorist, and I do not believe they only do it for religious reasons.
I've never noticed your post. I would've answered sooner if I did.
Anyways, Church and state is SUPPOSED to be seperated, which it isn't. If there were two people running for office and they both have the same qualifications, except one is Catholic and the other is Atheist, who do you think will win? The Catholic.
Most of America would agree.
Also, in some states, it's impossible for an Atheist to hold public office.
Those states.
And this might not be much, but I think it should be said anyway. What about when they hold prayer before board meetings?
As for the terrorists, they do their actions PURELY out of religion. Do you think they do suicide bombings because they felt like it? No. They do it because they believe that they are going to pop 72 cherries in Heaven. I wouldn't want to go kill 1,000 Americans unless I think that I'm going to get awarded for it, now would I?
Pretty much, you are going to need to base your attacks on religious cause in order to be willing to do it.
Im christian but i am very opened mind i dont put down other people religion
1.They're are very very similar (Islam and Judaism) same basic roots.
2.If you are a true Christian u wouldn't do it anyway.
3. As a human being its wrong to *bully* another person or culture.
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isnt that called the theistic theory
1.They're are very very similar (Islam and Judaism) same basic roots.
2.If you are a true Christian u wouldn't do it anyway.
3. As a human being its wrong to *bully* another person or culture.
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Originally Posted by BenDover
yay, another debate on religion. oh wait, its the exact same one, with the exact same people and responses.
oh well.
Catholic here.
They do coexist, sort of, and have for years
The Catholic church has accepted the theory of evolution and the big bang theory for years, saying that it was all through Gods action and by his will and stuff. which can be seen as a very general answer but whatever.
isnt that called the theistic theory
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I am Finnish and ἄθεότης, atheotes (Atheist)
I really haven't found any reason to believe on anything.
And its going well for me...
Sometimes these religions gets me angry as some people. Not sure what religion guys they were, came to my door.
I opened and they started to talk something.
I just said that im not interested on that stuff and closed the door.
When i went out those damn dudes had drawed some X on my door.
Kinda wanted to call damn police for vandalism...
I really haven't found any reason to believe on anything.
And its going well for me...
Sometimes these religions gets me angry as some people. Not sure what religion guys they were, came to my door.
I opened and they started to talk something.
I just said that im not interested on that stuff and closed the door.
When i went out those damn dudes had drawed some X on my door.
Kinda wanted to call damn police for vandalism...
fuck
