Toribash
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American "concentration" camps
What is your take on this?



I think that the US is doing something, but have you seen the news? we are making progress on eliminating terrorist groups in the middle east.
when we win, there will be prisoners.
and since guantanamo bay closed (or is closing) they will all have to be put somewhere, right? most of these camps are preexisting, its easier to renovate than build new locations.
plus, the US government wont just watch the facilities they created fall apart, they will have to be repaired.



this is also in question, why did FEMA buy 500,000 coffin liners?
they must be predicting a viral outbreak of some kind.
the website says they have a 100 year warranty, which would last longer than the people who bought them, so it might be a "just in case" thing

by the way, if someone says "but these are too big to fit inside coffins"
they are right. the website where you can buy these show them being placed OUTSIDE of coffins.

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http://www.polyguardvaults.com/index.cfm?ID=1

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Old news, more or less.

It's common knowledge that America gives fuck all about prisoners.
They've been torturing people to get information for the last few years in Guantanamo, constantly denying it. Too bad they didn't think about the reports leaking.
Yes, there are camps. We can probably blame the rash war hawks of the U.S. government (I'm looking at you, Bush/Cheyney) for implementing these internment camps (concentration just reminds me of nazi camps, so.)

People in the U.S. should know about this, and be infuriated, etc. After initial annoyance, they then look at the moral dilemmas; Should other people suffer, even just one, to save American (or British, etc) lives? Eventually, I'm pretty sure the progressive view of "Never." will take the gold.

(... until we can read peoples minds... this is obviously a cover-up for mind reading technologies.)


Anyway, to put it into perspective for others.

Democrats: Pretty much oppose torture (progressives..), but Obama hasn't closed the prison. I believe he's now trying to move them to a "ghost" prison (Nobody is held there) Ohio. (He promised to close them by the following year when he was elected).

Republicans: Screaming bloody murder, (well.. Glenn Beck and Rush at least: Who are popular republicans, tv, radio,...) apparently convinced that the Taliban will recruit max security prisoners into following their cause.. So they can follow it in prison..?

I don't know much past that. It's easy to get caught up in retarded bipartisan stuff. I admit that Glenn and Rush can sometimes be a little idiotic.
i agree to the "there are camps" but i really don think it will even be possible to get all of america into them. after that, they will be most likely sent to work camps around the US, AKA a business, a farm, a factory. it seems easier to just change the government than take everyone away from their homes, just to more or less send them back.
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Yo man im american Well African-American and i don't think we have any concentration camps man i would hate The USA if we did
Brb I got to roll a joint for Wiz Khalifa...
Originally Posted by dee666 View Post
Yo man im american Well African-American and i don't think we have any concentration camps man i would hate The USA if we did

We did, in a sense during WWI and WWII.

In reaction to the bombing of Pearl Harbor by Japan in 1941, President Franklin Roosevelt under United States Executive Order 9066 on February 19, 1942 allowed military commanders to designate areas "from which any or all persons may be excluded." Under this order all Japanese and Americans of Japanese ancestry were removed from Western coastal regions to concentration camps in Arkansas, Oregon, Washington, Wyoming, Colorado and Arizona; German and Italian citizens, permanent residents, and American citizens of those respective ancestries (and American citizen family members) were removed from (among other places) the West and East Coast and relocated or interned, and roughly one-third of the US was declared an exclusionary zone.

We also did this to Native Americans and escaped slaves who were living with them as well.

In 1830, some of the "Five Civilized Tribes" — the Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek, Seminole, and Cherokee — were still living east of the Mississippi, while others had already moved to the Native American Territory. They were called "civilized" because many tribesmen had adopted various aspects of European-American culture, including Christianity. The Cherokees had a system of writing their own language, developed by Sequoyah, and published a newspaper in Cherokee and English.

In spite of this acculturation and acceptance of the law, the position of the tribes was not secure. Many white settlers and land speculators simply desired the land that was occupied by the tribes. Others believed that the presence of the tribes was a threat to peace and security, based on previous wars waged between the United States and Native Americans, some of whom had been armed by enemies of the United States, such as Great Britain and Spain.
Accordingly, governments of the various U.S. states desired that all tribal lands within their boundaries be placed under state jurisdiction. In 1830, Georgia passed a law which prohibited whites from living on Native American territory after March 31, 1831 without a license from the state. This law was written to justify removing white missionaries who were helping the Native Americans resist removal.

Missionary organizer Jeremiah Evarts urged the Cherokee Nation to take their case to the U.S. Supreme Court. The Marshall court ruled that while Native American tribes were sovereign nations (Cherokee Nation v. Georgia, 1831), state laws had no force on tribal lands (Worcester v. Georgia, 1832). President Andrew Jackson is often quoted as having responded to the court by defiantly proclaiming, "John Marshall has made his decision. Now let him enforce it!" Jackson probably did not say this, although he was criticized (then and since) for making no effort to protect the tribes from state governments.

Andrew Jackson and other candidates of the new Democratic Party had made Native American Removal a major goal in the campaign of 1828. In 1830, Congress passed the Indian Removal Act over the opposition of Theodore Frelinghuysen. President Jackson signed it into law. The Removal Act provided for the government to negotiate removal treaties with the various tribes. The Treaty of Dancing Rabbit Creek with the Choctaw was the first such removal treaty implemented; while around 7,000 Choctaws ultimately stayed in Mississippi, about 14,000 moved along the Red River. Other treaties, like the dubious Treaty of New Echota with the Cherokee, followed, resulting in the Trail of Tears.

As a result, the five tribes were resettled in the new Indian Territory in modern-day Oklahoma and parts of Kansas. Some Native Americans eluded removal, while those who lived on individually owned land (rather than tribal domains) were not subject to removal. Those who stayed behind eventually formed tribal groups including the Eastern Band Cherokee, based in North Carolina.

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Some some dipshit flies a plane into a building, and we cant touch his friend who planned the thing?
If 500,000 terrorist die why the hell should I care?
I say good riddance. Terrorist say we're pigs and dicks. We're not the one making Iraq live in fear they are. They go around bombing the shit out of anything they can ram a car into. Then they say that we have a lot of nerve when we shoot the guy with 5 pounds of C4 strapped to his chest. As long as innocent people aren't held there, I could give less than half a fuck.
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Lol Coathanger, if i was a government i would want all my citizens to be just like you.

didn't americans shoot 20 or so civilians a while back? I bet some of the people living in the countries america invades, feel like america itself is one of the biggest "fattest" terrorrists ever. So i guess from your point of view i shouldnt mind to kill 500.000 america's to save 1 struggling nation, Think about what america could do with all the money wasted on the military, use that money in a different way and you wouldnt have to invade anything to change things.And if you look at the true reasons for america's warfare ( all of it ) you can not do anything else but realize, you have absolutely now reason whatshowever to be proud of you nation.

PS: I think people like you are the reason the rest of the world starts thinking it is a country mostly filled with ignorant fools. Wich is pretty shitty for the intelligent people living there. Btw, if i say you are a pig and a dick does that make me a terrorist to?
"I dissaprove of what you say, but i will defend to the death your right to say it"
People like me? Ignorant?
I didn't fly a plane into a building.
Also, your spelling is I don't even. Don't call someone ignorant unless you've gone through hooked on phonics.
Why should I care if a terrorist dies? I shouldn't. I don't care if they're Nazi's or KKK or Al-Quada, thats one less extremist fuck I have to deal with. Just because your too afraid to call someone out when they're wrong regardless of race doesn't mean I am.
What terrorist do is wrong, end of story. Most Muslims dont like terrorist, why? Because they blow shit up for no fucking reason. I don't give a single fuck if a terrorist dies be they White, Arab, Asian, Black, whatever. And one sick fuck in our Army that goes and rapes women/shoots children/steals money overseas does not represent the entire fucking military. There is no excuse for any of that shit, soldiers aren't all bad because one weirdo got on the news for shooting children, and such not all Arabs are bad because one weirdo thought the only way to bring himself honor was to fly into a fucking building.
I don't give a fuck what happens to terrorist period. They made their choice and now they have to expect us to make choices as well. If they didn't want us in their land they shouldn't have done 9/11.
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bitches don't know about Guantanomo bay, or the reported 60? worldwide suspected places where torture and arbitrary imprisonment is carried out on American orders.

google for citation, it's late and i cbf.