I dont really get it.

For demon items u need 20k qi rite?

but how do u get 20k? because on the 10th dan achievement award it says 10k.

Does each dan ADD that many qi? (thats what im guessing)
or does each dan just make ur qi that much?

sry for the stupid question, I just really need to know...

each fight you do is 1qi so if you fight 20,000 times you get 20,000 qi

soooo... 10th dan... u have 10,000 qi. So u need to play another 10,000 games after u get 10th dan to have 20k qi??

Exactly, so its a very long way if you wanna be a custom belt.
Othewrwise, if you wanna buy demon force, buy a non-qi demon force.
But it costs double its price i think so.

wow. Thats a very long while.....

but now... After 10th dan there are other belts... So, custom belt is 20k qi?

edit - i read through the toribash manual thingy. I understand now. Thanks guys

A no-qi demon force (if you manage to find some) would cost way more than just the double of the normal price.

[11:53:17] <Tonakai> ...Do no-Qi stuff even exist nowadays?
[11:57:06] <shiik> nope...
[11:57:14] <shiik> well im pretty sure they dont
[11:57:53] <lsl> Packs, yeah, everything else, no. At least I'm pretty sure that's how it is.
[11:58:04] <~SlipAnc> no QI stuff never existed
[11:58:21] <Tonakai> SlipAnc: didn't you sell no-Qi stuff in your shop
[11:58:32] <Tonakai> The massive shop where you sold almost everything in your inventory
[11:58:36] <~SlipAnc> what people call "no qi" are QI items with torishop admin send
[11:58:41] <Tonakai> ho
[11:58:45] <~SlipAnc> basically you can send any item
[11:58:49] <Tonakai> I see
[11:59:00] <Tonakai> And I bet there's no admins that do that?
[12:01:54] <Tonakai> Hampa would probably send a high-Qi item to someone without the requirements if he/she would pay
[12:02:04] <~SlipAnc> nope
[12:02:10] <Tonakai> oh
[12:02:12] <~SlipAnc> he'd say "buy the QI"
[12:02:18] <Tonakai> ho ho
[12:02:19] <Tonakai> True
[12:02:36] <~SlipAnc> (happened yesterday)
[12:02:41] <Tonakai> I see
[12:03:07] <Tonakai> Well I guess I can safely say that there won't be no-Qi transfers without using packs
[12:03:28] <~SlipAnc> Tonakai: so true

tl;dr: You won't get no-Qi stuff without having a Pack, and Packs cost fuckloads of TC.
It would be a waste to open a Pack, because then the price will go down a lot.

Thanks goes to lsl, shiik and SlipAnc.