Tripstone wants to revive our clan. By doing that, Trip will have power in making certain decisions for our clan. Introducing members into our clan and such.

Before i make my decision, i want the current members in this clan (even inactive) to put in a piece of their mind and tell me your thoughts (yes or no, why so.)

Trip: If u're reading this, I have no means of hiding it from you. I just don't want to make a decision that would lead the members currently to leave or BM about a wrong decision.



Edit/Update: I denied such an offer. This is because Trip would not expose informations that i would've required to know if to accept this offer. He asked for power to be given to him and evo6 without question from me organ or sorrow. I will not handover the clan to them. It is our clan, even if we fall inactive, it doesn't mean that we are still a "Family"(lolz).

Second edit: I dk if this is the right decision by me or not. I have no idea and i was not allowed to have more then tonight to make a decision. He said i only had this night to make the decision, as tomorrow he will be too wasted to do anything. Therefore i had no chance to contact Organ or Sorrow. This is my decision, but as i'm not leader and not the only co-leader. (Which Tripstone doesn't think so, as he thought Organ didn't matter and sorrow is too inactive to react to this "urgent" decision.)

Me helping you is a wrong decision? Ok then.. do it yourself.. cuz i know you wont.

I guess the last time i saved this clan from dying was the wrong decision to?

You make horrible judgement as a co leader and i hope thesorrow1 sees it.

Do you not trust your allies? Do you not trust our intentions to freely and willingly assist you? You should able to make a decision for the benefit of the clan on your own. Will you accept a force of elite and experienced members to assist this clan, or will you choose to manage this on your own?

Xtreme, you're being ridiculous right now. We need to be revived and here's our chance to make a comeback. We have allies and a family for a reason. They are here to help us. Let them.

Trip: you gave me a short time to make a decision.

I told you before, i'd like to wait to see Organ and Sorrow's decision first, BUT NO you're getting wasted tomorrow. Can't edit the clan list? I didn't have a chance to listen to other peoples opinion. Such a decision wouldn't be made if you didn't force me down on a short amount of time.

If you disreguard the time limit. I'd like to withdraw my decision and say sorry to you.

1. Organs and thesorrows decision is to keep Evil alive.. thesorrow has asked for help keeping Evil alive before, that's how Organ and evolution6 became part of the clan. That's the #1 goal for ALL clans.. staying alive and active. Now either you can choose to do so and let me do what I want... or you can close this thread now and I hope everyone finds a good clan to go to.

mmm why didn't you just tell me that last night, rather then organ and sorrow doesn't matter.

Whatever, im over thinking this. Im sorry trip and evo for being such a dick to such a kind offer. I shall here say that i will accept [eVo]s kind offer.

Is that a question or an answer?

OH IM SORRY, LET ME FIX THAT FOR YOU.

No actions can be made before Sorrow or/and Organ says yes. I KNOW, that sorrow asked for help before, but he will need to make the final decision. So is for Organ.

Unless they don't reply before tomorrow. This is not because im scared, but its because im just co-leader, and not the only co-leader

with the decision of giving them power, i say at minimum they should be entitled to submit applicants with priority. second, i say that we should at LEAST test the people that they vouch for, otherwise WTF is the "voucher" or "reference" section of our OWN application for...

i agree with allowing them to help make decisions such as when they say someone should join it should automatically count as a vote for that person along with higher priority for testing.

there are two problems that i see:

the first is trying to force us to accept members. I understand the sense of urgency about keeping Evil alive but please give at least the co-leaders time to make a decision or at least 2 members. if it were up to me you guys would be considered at minimum in our voting system senior members or elites.

the other problem is getting all of our members on the same page about this sense of urgency as it would seem that not all of our members agree that we're not active...

yes people like yerug, hellobob, shadowdance and xtreme have all come back from being inactive but we've lost more activity than what we've gained back. we need to realize that how we treat our applicants shows future applicants what to expect and if we ever expect to gain members we need to at least show our applicants some respect and not just flat out say "fuck off"

i honestly hope this makes sense, I love the fact that I'm in Evil and i thank Tripstone for vouching for me to sorrow. without tripstone's voucher i wouldn't be here (at least not without applying and with our current inability to reasonably vote on applicants i would not have gotten in)

if i'm saying anything it's that vouchers from allies is a strong way to gain members and to realize that hey "our allies are good, perhaps they know what other members are good and that their suggestions should be more helpful and have more priority than any regular applicant"

it's not an easy task getting vouched for by tripstone or eVo or any other member of evolution so that being said what they bring to the table does matter and we've been brushing it aside as if their suggestions were just regular applicants...