Secret Santa 2024
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Will smoking send you to hell?
Well I just thought of this yesterday and, well, its bothering me.

As far as religion is concerned, suicide = you going to that dark hot place called hell. From what I have heard if you commit suicide you go to hell. Now Whats bothering me is "put yourself in this position". Youre a smoker, you chain smoke every day of your life, One day you get a phonecall...the diognosis, Cancer. Due to exxesive smoking. You feel all bad because you know if you hadnt smoked chances are this would not have happened.

So a couple of months down the line you are in your deathbed and one day...3....2...1....flatline. After youre gone you reach those old pearly gates of heaven, youve been a good person all your life never done any evil. And God says."Youre going to hell" You cannot believe what you are hearing. The reason Gad says "suicide" You wonder what he means by this and you are in total disbelief.

So the bottom line is, If suicide is punishable by going to hell.....Would God send us there if your Choice of starting to smoke led to your death. Therefore would God deem this as suicide.

~discuss~
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Well, I don't thinnk that you can consider smoking as suicide since you don't kill yourself on purpose.
You can smoke and nothing is ever gonna happen or you can smoke and you will die within two years. And smoking is not the only factor which kills you for sure.

Oh and by the way, you can not say what god would do. Never.
God moves in mysterious ways.

I'm a agnostic and I say that you can't even be sure that something like hell, god, heaven etc. exists.
You can not be sure that it doesn't exist, too.
But in my opinion praising god is nonessential.
Imagine:
We are the humans and god is a huge guy ruling our life.
Now imagine you are a guy playing with ants.
They praise you but you don't even notice that.
You could kill them all or help them but the ant's prayer won't ever reach you .
That's my opinion.
~wrong board btw. this is no stupid wibbles thread~
Last edited by juo; Jun 22, 2008 at 05:21 PM.
oh not only does smoking kill it sends you to hell! OMG!
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Meh if someone wants to move it to discussion they can

I just think it turns my outlook on religion upside down..I mean how would God classify suicides if they are complex like this :P
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U1V1
Well, i think a sucide is only a suicide if you kill yourself or make someone killing you om purpose because you don't want to live anymore.
I think it wouldn't be a suicide if someone tells you have to kill yourself or he/she will kill you family.
Smoking is not what I consider as suicide, but that does not mean that it is not bad.
Maybe god punishes smokers (if god exists) as well.
Maybe god smokes for himself (if god exists).
Who knows?

Originally Posted by Shazikuro View Post
dude, god plays counterstrike, he like it to kill people...and with smoking he make it like a hack or a cheat for suicide...xxDD

Stop spamming dude.
Last edited by juo; Jun 22, 2008 at 06:16 PM.
Well, God isn't exactly what you'd call a nice person... In fact, when I read the bible, I feel the word 'demon' is more appropriate. If you're a smoker, you have made a transgression, and God is quite likely to smite you soundly before damning you to an eternity of torment in the flaming pits of hell. It fits his personality.
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Originally Posted by Skazz View Post
Well, God isn't exactly what you'd call a nice person... In fact, when I read the bible, I feel the word 'demon' is more appropriate. If you're a smoker, you have made a transgression, and God is quite likely to smite you soundly before damning you to an eternity of torment in the flaming pits of hell. It fits his personality.

You can not say that.
You know nothing about god.
You don't know if god exists, you don't know if god doesn't exists. You can believe but now know.
Even an atheist can only 'believe' that god doesn't exist.

And you have no proof wether the bible tells the truth or not.
Last edited by juo; Jun 22, 2008 at 06:16 PM.
Originally Posted by Skazz View Post
Well, God isn't exactly what you'd call a nice person... In fact, when I read the bible, I feel the word 'demon' is more appropriate. If you're a smoker, you have made a transgression, and God is quite likely to smite you soundly before damning you to an eternity of torment in the flaming pits of hell. It fits his personality.

I agree, I dont mean to turn this threat into an atheist hangout but imo religion is a way of threatening people to be good. Keeps 50+% of the population good. And if God had his way he would deem smoking as a sin because it affects the health he gave to you
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Originally Posted by Velve View Post
I agree, I dont mean to turn this threat into an atheist hangout but imo religion is a way of threatening people to be good. Keeps 50+% of the population good. And if God had his way he would deem smoking as a sin because it affects the health he gave to you

But remember that religions were found by people.
You can't even be sure that god (if god exists) wants those religions.
Maybe god just wants you to live.
Choice.
Choosing to do bad = bad.
Penance.
Not regretting and not asking for forgiveness = bad.

It's not complex. Just stick to the basics.