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make rigging decapprizes banable
so i was fighting for that 100k decaprize i left on how tired i was and what i heard was clockworkmonkey and cul <-something rigged the 100k by 1 of them ripping there own head of.

what i think should be added
it being bannable to ripe your own head off to split a decapprize high decapprize

what the screenshot has to have is the decapprize amount and the said person ripping their head off

possible have a confession

(the banning time matters how much the tc is )
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I didn't think the OP was well constructed; however, I believe in the sentiment so I want to expand on it since this is suggestions.


Bet rigging isn't allowed. It falsifies people's bets, and it's so discouraged that JSnuffMars was recently banned for simply mentioning it's effectiveness in Beginner Sanctuary. If someone was caught bet rigging, they would be banned. If bet rigging is a bannable offense, then decap rigging should be as well.


I know the major counter argument to the concept is "well how can we tell?". Well the elephant in the room is that when someone get's a decapprize they send a sum of money to the person they decap'd or one of their alts. That's a pretty gigantic red flag that some arrangement was done. And second was blatant self-decaps. Video evidence of what that looks like can be seen in the replay attached to this post. If I think a player intentionally played stupid to make their head a bit vulnerable, that's their choice and thus wouldn't fall into the category of this crime.

Even if this only makes scammers accomplish their goal in a more complicated way, it'd at least make it harder on the scammers to accomplish their goal, and maybe even kicked/banned from the server knowing what they had planned when seeing what intricate lengths they try to succeed at scamming.
Last edited by Bodhisattva; Jan 28, 2016 at 02:00 AM.
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I'd like to restart this thread rather than make my own. Half a year later, we still have people rigging decapprizes. Yesterday we had 3 users involved in a decap rig that netted them 53k each. Several admins showed up a couple hours later and everyone was laughing it off, including the admins. This is unacceptable.

I won't continue to play in a community that not only allows such unsporting conduct to go unchecked, but even encourages it. Especially not when I have personally witnessed admins themselves benefiting from such antics. Several other active players, particularly ones who are active in the wushu community, share my frustration as well.

It is unfair to the players who are battling hour long queues just for a fair chance at winning, it is unfair to the players who are donating several thousands of TC to get the decapprize that high, and it has been allowed to continue unchecked for too long. The decapprize feature is no longer new, and it is in dire need of moderation.

I necrofuck this thread in the hopes that it will start a new discussion leading to result.
should have been added to list of ban-able offences months ago.
if it's not written down it doesn't mean that staff should not use common sense to deal wth such situations.

mehh.. why this is even a question?
I agree with the folks above. From a developer's standpoint there's no reason to allow for blatant rigging or what have you of decapprizes.

Say you allow for players to self-decap and split the TC right away as we do now. Then decapprizes become a contest of who can find a friend to split the prize with first. Is this really a meaningful feature from a developer's standpoint? Do you really want your players to put money in a pot that can be emptied out at any time through a simple self-decap? Having a history of allowing rigging is the same as having a global announcement encouraging players to rig decapprizes. In fact, since it is allowed now, I might aswell engage in making globals encouraging players to rig a room every time that room's decapprize reaches a 20k. Mentioning how its good practice to rig decapprizes, with the fact that its not a bannable offense as my warrant. You can imagine the results of what would happen if I did such a thing (Of course funding for those announcements might be a problem. But, I suppose I could just rig the decapprizes to pay for those announcements - since that's allowed).

However, if you at least ban players that blatantly self-decap and split the TC immediately after, then from a developer's standpoint decapprizes make sense again. They do what they were intended to do. This rule isn't even hard to implement, all you have to do is clear the rule with the proper folks and then make a global stating that decapprize rigging isn't allowed. Moreover, telling when a decapprize was rigged can't be that different from handling scams. Sure if you made it bannable some would do it anyway and try to ban evade. But that's nothing new as far as rules go, and certainly isn't a reason to not make rigging decapprizes a bannable offense.
Last edited by GoodBox; Jan 3, 2014 at 11:11 PM.
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Since rigging is so prevalent with this feature, why not just remove it altogether?

I think we're better off implementing new ways to pay people in-game (ahem... /pay) than to add features that can easily be abused.
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If someone puts up a decapprize in an unmoderated environment, they are basically saying:
"I'm putting up this tc for people to claim"
If you wanted people to obey certain rules like not setting up a rig, a large cap prize should have been done in a private server with an operator.
That's because rigging a decap prize is not a scam in my eyes, because you willingly put the tc there to be claimed. In a private server, yes, this is different because you are in charge of this room, you can set down rules and moderate it properly. If you still feel like a rig has happened after you've told the people in your room not to do that, then you can consider it a scam, and then staff can look into it.

Don't get me wrong, rigging is a real dick move, but I stand by what I just said.
Last edited by Stellar; Jan 4, 2014 at 01:20 AM.
I get your thoughts Fear and they are reasonable and arguably agreeable given the current situation. The way to go now, as it is, is putting up tc in a private server.

But what others and myself are suggesting is that the current situation be changed. Sure all of this may be irrelevant with private servers. But, that's a subset of the larger problem. Again consider a dev's standpoint. If you implemented decapprizes, would you allow for players to rig decapprizes, considering the effects that would have on the feature? Your thoughts are on how to operate in the current system, not on why the current system is better or worse than the suggested new one. In the new suggested system, there would no such thing as someone putting up a decapprize in an unmoderated environment.

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