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USA, from the perspective of a European
Just wanted to start a little discussion here. What do you guys think about the western state, what effects does it have on todays world etc.
I personally think, that a country with a national debt of over 13 trillion dollars (over 3 times the money that is on this earth) should be doing desperate actions to get rid of at least some of the debt, and not producing more and more weapons, and getting their hands into every war there is. For example, the situation in Ukraine: the crisis caused the value of ruble to collapse. At the same time the price of oil went down. Every time the price of oil has been low, Saudi Arabia has reduced the production of oil to get the prices up, but this time they're producing even more, probably to get Russia on it's knees begging for mercy. Since Usa and Saudi Arabia have been keeping meetings about the thing, the question is: What has Usa promised to Saudi Arabia as a reward for continuing the oil production?
This was just a little starting statement to get the thread going, will be joining the conversations for more.
I personally think, that a country with a national debt of over 13 trillion dollars (over 3 times the money that is on this earth) should be doing desperate actions to get rid of at least some of the debt, and not producing more and more weapons, and getting their hands into every war there is. For example, the situation in Ukraine: the crisis caused the value of ruble to collapse. At the same time the price of oil went down. Every time the price of oil has been low, Saudi Arabia has reduced the production of oil to get the prices up, but this time they're producing even more, probably to get Russia on it's knees begging for mercy. Since Usa and Saudi Arabia have been keeping meetings about the thing, the question is: What has Usa promised to Saudi Arabia as a reward for continuing the oil production?
This was just a little starting statement to get the thread going, will be joining the conversations for more.
Empires come and go, this time it's no different. China's rise is on the horizon, let's just hope the USA will have the common sense to go silently.
Debt is money, so I don't see how you came to the conclusion in your second sentence.
For the Ukraine situation, it's pretty much the US bullying Russia in it's own backyard. All that violence being done to the Ukrainians could have been avoided if the US didn't destabilize the country's pro-Russian government.
Debt is money, so I don't see how you came to the conclusion in your second sentence.
For the Ukraine situation, it's pretty much the US bullying Russia in it's own backyard. All that violence being done to the Ukrainians could have been avoided if the US didn't destabilize the country's pro-Russian government.
Personally, I don't know why the US has such a massive army. I mean, is it really necessary? I'm the kind of person that thinks that the US should spend more on renewable energy, or cures for disease and such.
The world is nearly $61 trillion in debt. Tell me, who's the world in debt to?
The world is nearly $61 trillion in debt. Tell me, who's the world in debt to?
Originally Posted by SkyWhale
The world is nearly $61 trillion in debt. Tell me, who's the world in debt to?
Mars.
Anyways, When you have 2 parties that don't work together and don't get anything done in the first place nothing gets done. The American attitude is this, It's our duty to bring justice and freedom to people lesser than us.
The thing is that when you pay debts by taking loans from other countries who do the same, and the interest rates must be payed by more loans, the whole global economy becomes a joke. As far as I know the USA is the country where this debt snowballing effect has been worse, but I can't see how anyone can take all these debts seriously anymore.
Last edited by Zelda; Jan 1, 2015 at 01:34 PM.
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